[Align 3G] MAJ Firmware

[Goldorak2024 1]

Salut a tous,

Alors au dernières nouvelle d'ALIGN d'aujourd'hui, ils confirme que l'interface USB est presque prete,

Et que la mise a jour corrige principalement: le taux de pyro, le probleme du servo d'AC qui donne des a coup

en statique et le temps de latence a été augmenter avant l'initialisation du module 3G pour les radio spectrum

qui aurais besoin de plus de temps pour l'initialisation de la liaison entre la radio et le récepteur.

Il y doit y avoir d'autre correctifs mais ils n'ont pas préciser plus.

Ça devient bon....ça devient bon.....

[NecOne 0]

Ca bouge chez Align : http://www.align.com.tw/alignhtml/EN/index.html

[coom 0]

Ah oui ca bouge ! Ils proposent même de télécharger une archive winrar vide.. Plus qu'a attendre qu'il la remplisse du fameux outil de mise à jour..

[YANN62 0]

c chelou jai toujours des rebond ...meme avec la mise a jour.....

ok je....

[NecOne 0]

Salut à tous !!!!

Certains ont eut la chance de pouvoir mettre à jour leur 3G lors d'un meeting à Toledo (US)

Voici le post d'un pilote

source : http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=205685

Me too. The update took 5 min at the most. Really easy. The software told you what version you 3G has and tells you what vesrion it has now and what it has been updated too. The software is pretty limited, you can not see any peramiters or anything else. The update was given by the plug using the wire from the sensor to the FBL control unit then pluging in the sensor. Mike had to update the FBL control unit and sensor independently. There is a buton on the USB dongal that has to be pressed, not really sure what it dose. That is most of what i know about the 3G update.

Pour ce qui est des améliorations, je vous laisse parcourir le topic de HF ... mais de ce que j'ai compris ... spa encore ça

[Brag 0]

Je viens de recevoir le 700E Combo, le 3G qui est dedans est un V2, c'est écrit sur le boitier, après le numéro de série, j'ai pas de bon appareil photo sous la main.

[Goldorak2024 1]

Cool,

Effectivement, apparemment tous les kit FBL récent sont direct en V2,

Kit hélico ou kit de conversion.Tu va pouvoir nous faire un petit retour

Sur cette fameuse V2 en attendant qu'il sortent enfin cette foutu clé USB pour la mise a jour....

Bon vol a toi

[NecOne 0]

Bonjour à tous !!!

Bien que ne possédant plus de 3G, j'ai pensé que cette info pourrait servir à d'autres

Le firmware 2.0 va être remplacé par une nouvelle version ^^ .... la 2.1 (whouaaaaaaaa c'est originale ^^) ... pas d'infos dessus mais juste des photos.

En gros le 3G s'offre une interface de programmation ... maintenant reste à savoir ce qu'il sera possible de faire avec

Edit : dispo dans 1 semaine d'après les rumeurs ... le cable USB aussi

[Le_Cats 0]

Bonne nouvelle !!!!

Esperons que la date annoncé ne soit pas aussi farfelue que la précédente ...............

[rsbull88 0]

Salut à tous,

Bon on y arrive !!

Ca vient, ca vient ...

[xapi39 6]

faut peut etre pas que je m'affole avec le vstabi alors .....

[rsbull88 0]

Xavier, si 8)

(je serai toi, je verrai avec 1 ou 2 personnes qui en ont déja un de vstabi pour en récupérer à 250€ !!

[Le_Cats 0]

Enfin ça ce présice !!!! Et c'est rassurant de voir qu'on ne seras pas obligé de tout débrancher quand on fera les réglages

[gallica 0]

Et en complément d'info sur les modifications apportées :

http://www.hobby-media.biz/released-gyr ... -align-rc/

[freddo17 3]

Bonjour,

Il va ainsi pouvoir s'améliorer pleinement .

Bonne chance au 3G.

A+FRED

[HELI FAN 0]

Tout ce que l'interface permet de faire comme règlages :

Aileron Parameter Setting

This section is for setting the aileron functions on the 3G-FL760 system.

1. Aileron Command Compensate

Helicopter roll rate is a personal preference. This parameter is used to compensate for insufficient roll rate settings on your radio. For example, when the AIL SWASH AFR is set to the maximum value on your radio, but higher roll rate is still desired, this value can be increased to achieve even higher roll rate. On the other hand, even though the radio’s AIL SWASH AFR can be used for lower roll rate, too low of SWASH AFR value will reduce command resolution (do not lower past 50%). Instead, use this aileron command compensate parameter to reduce roll rate, while maintaining command resolution. The actual roll rate after compensation will be displayed in “Command display”.

Note: If the roll rate is still insufficient after increasing this parameter, there may not be enough cyclic pitch. Please go back to the 3G flybarless system setup and increase the cyclic pitch, but not exceeding the maximum pitch as recommended in the manual.

2. Aileron Total Gain Compensate

A helicopter’s gain may be attributed to factors such as servo arm’s length, helicopter size, etc. This parameter is used to compensate for insufficient AIL gain settings on your 3G control-unit . For example, when more gain is needed past the 3G control-unit’s maximum AIL gain setting. User should try to set the aileron gain compensate value so that the physical dial on 3G control-unit is approximately in the middle, so the gain resolution is maintained, and there are room for fine adjustments using the dial.

3. Roll Lock Gain Adjustment

The roll lock gain adjustment is used to maintain the helicopter on a straight course during high speed sideway flights. Higher value keeps the helicopter straight, but too high of value will result in slow sideway oscillation during hover.

4. Roll Brake Gain Adjustment

The roll brake gain adjust is used to suppress the sideway rocking motion (bobbing) after sudden stop from high speed rolls. Too high of value may result in delay in helicopter position fixing after rolls.

5. Roll EXP Level Setting

Roll exponential setting is used to soften the aileron’s sensitivity at mid stick. Setting range is 0 to 5, higher value has larger softening effect. Set this parameter to 0 if the EXP setting on the radio is used instead.

Two- Elevator Parameter Setting

This section is for setting the elevator functions on the 3G-FL760 system.

1. Elevator Command Compensate

Helicopter flip rate is a personal preference. This parameter is used to compensate for insufficient flip rate settings on your radio. For example, when the ELE SWASH AFR is set to the maximum value on your radio, but higher flip rate is still desired, this value can be increased to achieve even higher flip rate. On the other hand, even though the radio’s ELE SWASH AFR can be used for lower flip rate, too low of SWASH AFR value will reduce command resolution (do not lower past 50%). Instead, use this elevator command compensate parameter to reduce flip rate, while maintaining command resolution. The actual flip rate after compensation will be displayed in “Command display”.

Note: If the flip rate is still insufficient after increasing this parameter, there may not be enough cyclic pitch. Please go back to the 3G flybarless system setup and increase the cyclic pitch, but not exceeding the maximum pitch as recommended in the manual.

2. Elevator Total Gain Compensate

A helicopter’s gain may be attributed to factors such as servo arm’s length, helicopter size, etc. This parameter is used to compensate for insufficient ELE gain settings on your 3G control-unit . For example, when more gain is needed past the 3G control-unit maximum ELE gain setting. User should try to set the aileron gain compensate value so that the physical dial on 3G control-unit is approximately in the middle, so the gain resolution is maintained, and there are room for fine adjustments using the dial.

3. Elevator Lock Gain Adjustment

The elevator lock gain adjustment is used to maintain the helicopter on a straight course during high speed forward flights. Higher value keeps the helicopter straight, but too high of value will result in slow forward/aft oscillation during hover.

4. Elevator Brake Gain Adjustment

The elevator brake gain adjust is used to suppress the forward/aft rocking motion (bobbing) after sudden stop from high speed flips. Too high of value may result in delay in helicopter position fixing after flips.

5. Elevator EXP Level Setting

Elevator exponential setting is used to soften the elevator’s sensitivity at mid stick. Setting range is 0 to 5, higher value has larger softening effect. Set this parameter to 0 if the EXP setting on the radio is used instead.

Three- Rudder Parameter Setting

This section is for setting the rudder functions on the 3G-FL760 system.

1. Rudder Command Adjustment

This setting is used to adjust the pirouetting rate of 3G system to suit the pilot’s preference, with larger value being faster pirouette rate, small value being slower rate.

2. Rudder Total Gain Adjustment

A helicopter’s gain may be attributed to factors such as servo arm’s length, helicopter size, etc. This parameter is used to compensate rudder gain settings on your radio. With higher rudder total gain value, the rudder gain value needs to be decreased on the radio. User should try to set the rudder total gain adjustment value so that the rudder gain on radio is approximately 60%, so the gain resolution is maintained, and there are room for adjustments on the radio.

3. Rudder Lock Gain Adjustment

The rudder lock gain adjustment is used to maintain the helicopter on a straight course during high speed forward and backward flights. Higher value keeps the helicopter straight, but too high of value will result in tail oscillation during hover.

4. Rudder Brake Gain Adjustment

The rudder brake gain adjust is used to suppress tail oscillation after sudden stop from high speed pirouetting flips. Too high of value may result in delay in helicopter position fixing after pirouetting maneuvers.

5. Pirouette Compensate

This parameter corrects cyclic instability during pirouetting maneuvers. But too high of value may result in excess cyclic gain, causing high speed oscillations.

Four- Miscellaneous Setting

This section is for setting the integration functions between aileron, elevator, and rudder on the 3G-FL760 system.

1. Hiller Rate

The cyclic pitch control on RC helicopters utilizes the Bell Hiller mixing method. Hiller rate is equivalent to helicopter’s stabilizer paddle effectiveness rate. 3G system simulates the effect of Hiller system, but with higher precision and no aerodynamic resistance from paddles. Higher Hiller rate results in more stability in the helicopter, which is suitable for F3C maneuvers. On the 3G system, the sum of Bell and Hiller mixing rate should not be lower than 100%, and no higher than 150%. Lower Hiller rate results in more direct control with faster response. We recommend setting of 70% for stability, and 40% for hard 3D type flying. We recommend no going below 30%, as this would result in helicopter instability.

2. Bell Rate

In term of stabilizing system, Bell mixing rate is the ratio between servos and direct link to cyclic pitch. The higher the rate, the faster the response. On the 3G system, the sum of Bell and Hiller mixing rate should not be lower than 100%, and no higher than 150%. We recommend setting of 70% for hard 3D type flying, and 30% for beginners.

3. Pitch Compensate

During fast forward flight, if collective pitch changes result in helicopter pitching up or down, this value can be increased to alleviate the pitch instability of the helicopter. However, if this value was set too high, the output of servo may be unsmoothly while the static state cyclic pitch is operating.

4. Cyclic Pitch Level Speed

This parameter sets how fast the 3G system levels out the cyclic pitch after helicopter is airborne. The faster it’s leveled, the easier the helicopter is to control once airborne, but fast leveling speed may affect helicopter’s fast forward flight performance. To improve fast forward flight performance, if there are minimal vibrations on helicopter, we recommend as low of value as possible without affecting helicopter’s ability to liftoff.

5. Cyclic Pitch Compensate

During fast forward flight rolling maneuvers, helicopter pitch up tendencies can be corrected with this parameter. But over correcting may result in fast forward/aft oscillation (bobbing) of the head.

6. Pirouette Optimum Adjustment

This parameter is used to compensate for drifting of the heli during pirouetting maneuvers. Ideal setting would keep the helicopter stationary during pirouetting maneuvers, and assist the pilot to maintain a straight course during pirouetting forward flight. But excessive value may result in overcorrection by the 3G system, causing unusual behaviors in flips and rolls.

7. Cyclic Pitch Motion Delay

This setting softens the cyclic action, causing the helicopter to resemble closer to traditional flybar system. Hard 3D flyers can lower this value, while more docile type of flying can increase this value.

8. Pirouette Optimum Switch

Turns on/off the pirouette optimum adjustment function.

9. Cyclic Pitch Motion Delay Switch

Turns on/off the cyclic pitch motion delay function.

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[rotoracing 4]

Enfin..........................

Bon reste plus qu'a savoir ou acheter ce soft

A+

[HELI FAN 0]

Il est prévu que ce soit en téléchargement libre sur le site ALIGN en multilangues........mais sans l'interface USB rien à faire.......

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[rotoracing 4]

Bon, je viens de lire toute la prose concernant les réglages............et bien j'ai envie de dire que cela semble être trés complet............mais j'ai aussi envie de dire que je pense que cela va étre la même merde a régler que certain modules fbl et qu'il va falloir se promener au terrain avec le pc et tout le cinema !!

Ah technologie quand tu nous tiens.

Alors pour ceux qui n'arrivaient pas a régler un gain sur la V1, je pense que cela ne va pas faciliter la chose

Wait and see, y'a plus qu'a attendre la dispo.

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[Oli 0]

J'ai bien envie de dire la meme chose que toi Pat ! Passer des pleins rien qu'à tâtonner pour trouver LE bon preset parfait.

C'est là où avec l'AC3X, le BeastX ou le Vstabi, on peut se servir de l'expérience des autres et des recherches qu'ils ont fait afin d'arriver rapidement à un truc relativement potable

Toi, là et avec qui tu voles tu aurais eu plus vite fait d'y coller un Vbar, de chopper un bon preset, de l'adapter un poil à ta pogne et zou

T'as pas envie d'avoir un 700Vstabi et un 3G, juste pour voir ?

[rotoracing 4]

Et non Oli, ce sera 2 T700 en 3G.

Le second arrive avec le T700E de patron

Et puis autant je suis relativement critique avec les T700, mais je dois dire que je suis trés confiant sur les 3G depuis le début (d'ailleur je suis super content de la V1) contrairement au VStabi. Certainement une grosse part didées reçues. Et puis ça change le 3G.

A+

[Pitounet 4]

Personne ne l'a noté, mais il semble que cette fois ci il y ait une vraie piro compensation (pour ceux que ça intéresse) .

[Oli 0]

Si, si j'ai lu, mais bon

[Pitounet 4]

Le prix public : 32.99$

Pour une raison mystérieuse je n'arrive pas à éditer mon message précédent (pas de bouton):

[Goldorak2024 1]

En même temps le 3G fonctionne déja très bien en sorti de boite,

C'est surtout pour affiner un peut plus quelques paramètre, et le régler un peu plus

A son feeling perso